Paypal Pro Account Upgrade

[behladesign]

We currently have members subscribed to a monthly plan using Paypal for offsite checkout. We now want to switch to Paypal Pro for all future subscriptions. Below are questions surrounding this upgrade to make sure that we are not getting any surprises in this transition.

1. Do we need a unique Paypal Pro account for gapzip.com and membersgapzip.com or can one account server both urls?

2. If we are currently on Paypal and switch to Paypal Pro, will our current payment buttons that are geared towards a regular paypal account still work with the Paypal Pro account? In other words can you do offsite as well as onsite processing?

3. If we move to paypal pro, does it impact any of the existing accounts as they are currently setup with the standard Paypal setup?

4. With s2 member, can we use a virtual terminal to add a member manually? Is there a way to enter a user's credit card and information to create a new subscription or does the user need to use the new button for enrollment that we will create with Paypal Pro?

[behladesign]

Does anyone know how to do this? We want to implement it this week. Do you have any suggestions? We need to know how to enroll someone using virtual terminal as a member and also how we can give that person 14 days free. Is there any step by step guide to this? Thanks for your help.

[Cristián Lávaque]

Sorry the for the delay.

1. You can use the same one. viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2905

2. The buttons will keep working as they are.

3. Not that I know, I'm pretty sure they'll be unaffected.

4. I don't know how you enter your customer's credit card for him, but you can certainly edit his WordPress account to add the PayPal subscriber ID and EOT.

I hope that helps.

[andrewpapageorge]

Thank you for your response. We ahve a workshop this weekend and are trying to sort this out.

1. We talked to PayPal and they said a Virtual Terminal product sale can only generate a single "Transaction ID". It could not be used for recurring payments. In S2, when I hover over the Subscriber ID it makes mention of getting a Transaction ID if not a Subscriber ID.
- If we entered a product via Virtual Teminal and got a Transaction ID and entered it into the subscriber ID field in S2, would that convert to a recurring payment?

2. PayPal also offers to PayPal Pro accounts a recurring payment service ($30/mo), is the number generated using that service the one I need to enter in S2? They

3. In point #4 in your last response you mention "EOT" - what is that? The people at PayPal has no idea.

Also, FI, I cannot create a buy button and have people at a workshop use that button over and over again. It triggers a fraud alert in PP and I oculd use some of the functionality of my account.

Thank you.

[behladesign]

EOT means End of Term. Update on payment processor for the project. We are planning to use authorize.net now. Do you know if this will be different in terms of trying to get the virtual terminal solution to work? is there anything specific that you can tell us to help achieve this?

[Cristián Lávaque]

Andrew,

1) Entering a transaction ID to the profile's subscription ID field, won't turn that into a subscription over at PayPal. If you can't create subscriptions in PayPal using the virtual terminal, I'm afraid you'll have to have the users create the subscriptions themselves.

2) Here's a comparison of PayPal services: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2634

If the user creates a subscription, then the subscription ID is what you'd have to add to his profile. That'd be the case if you didn't set it up so he creates it with a button integrated with s2Member that'd add that ID to his profile automatically.

3) WP Admin -> s2Member -> PayPal Options -> Automatic EOT

4) If you create a button with the s2Member generator or the PayPal generator (following the integration instructions), any number of users should be able to create subscriptions with it. Just make sure they aren't logged in with someone else's account when they do, either have them logged out or logged into their own account.

[behladesign]

Thanks Cristian. I understand that you really recommend PayPal Pro. Their fees for recurring billing are very high $30/month, plus the Paypal Pro fee of $30/month takes their fees up to $60/month. Authorize.net has lower fees - $20/month for the account and $10/month for recurring billing. I think Andrew P. can report on the actual rates. I'm not sure why you suggest PayPal Pro when their fees are double of the competition. Is there any reason to not use authorize.net?

Biggest question and what we are looking to gain understanding on based on this thread is if we can signup a recurring monthly member via a virtual terminal. The situation is such that we have a roomful of wordshop attendees and want to sign them up ourselves if they give us their credit card information. In the past PP would trigger an alert if the same IP was used in signing up new members from the normal web interface (via the signup page in wordpress that the public sees).

We are asking if there is a way as a WP admin to signup new members via a virtual terminal with authorize.net or the WP admin/S2 options available by admins on the backend.